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Mail List Inquiries & Roll Call

The DVHH-L Mail List enjoys hearing from everyone.  Many of you have discovered new names and villages to add to your trees and we encourage you to share your discoveries and brick walls with the list.   Submitting your surnames and villages creates a searchable database in the List Archives for others searching the same.  

Here is the link to the DVHH-L searchable archives:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?aop&path=DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES

Suggested (not required) inquiry formats & tips for sending list messages & roll call postings

 
Formatting Tips
Look up request - What's a lookup? What's a Ortssippenbuch, Familienbuch, Heimatbuch, Ortsfamilienbuch, Bildband and Stader Book?
Request Manners
Writing a successful inquiry
Copyright Notice

1: Subject Line: Place your surnames and/or villages of interest in the Subject Line.  For a general posting, choose a subject matter that will correlate with your message.
Note: if you have too many surnames and villages to list in the subject line, we suggest you place your 2 main ones, for example: Subject: Roll Call: MARMON / Mehala - INGRISCH / Mercydorf
You can list all the others in the body of your message.  See surname and village comments below.

2: Alignment of Names/Villages: It is suggested that placing surnames in UPPER CASE and in a vertical column makes it easier to read, by those list members performing look-ups for you.  If the location is unknown a (?) is sufficient, but please don't put down "..born in Banat or Batschka, etc..."  Post the village associated with the surnames, for example:

Example 1 Example 2
ALLAR - Grabatz
ALTZINGER - Bogarosch
AMSCHLINGER - Sellesch/Lunga
ARNZNER - GrossJetscha
BAUER - Grabatz
Village Grabatz: 
ALLAR
ALTZINGER
AMSCHLINGER

Village GrossJetscha:
ARNZNER
BAUER

Here is a good example by Robert Evensen: 
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES/2003-10/1065833844

Referencing SurnamesName changes happen for various reasons.  Published village family books record surnames in German, so we suggested providing the surnames prior to being Americanized or otherwise changed; because most volunteers who will conduct lookups are not familiar with all the various surname changes. 

Referencing Villages: Using your villages' German name variant (if known) and all other language variants will enable someone searching to find your inquiry in the archives database.  The Donauschwaben Village Lists found on each regional site, providing all known language variants.  These lists are updated periodically with new updates.  If you do not find your village, Contact Us, provide the information and it will be added.

3: Start your own thread/message/subject: When posting your own surname roll call or general inquiry, don't tag on to a previously sent email, start a your own thread/message/subject.  It is easier to  spot a particular name or village in the DVHH archives as opposed to never finding it because it is hidden in unrelated messages that most likely the searcher will never open.  

Regardless if it is a roll call or a recipe message, when starting a new topic, new subject line is suggested.  Robert's message above is a good example of a message that started out correct, then went array:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES/2003-10/1065833844
- it went from a roll call to recipes. 

Posting an Inquiry or Requesting a Look Up

Request Manners a must: As a results of an inquiry, often a helpful list member will spend days researching information for an inquiry.   Sometimes without even receiving a "Thank You," which is not polite.  At times an inquirer will reply "Oh, I have all that information already" and/or "I just wanted to see if yours matches with mine."   This is an infringement on the valuable time of the one helping and shows a lack of consideration and respect to those who go out of their way and offer their time to do a free research in your behalf.   

Lookup Request Manners

Place in the subject line, ie.: Lookup: Heimatbuch 1993; Die Deutschen Erstsiedler 1942 by Dr. Berta List; Westmarkliche Abhandlungen zur Landes-und

Please be specific with your request.

The books are written in German and sometimes difficult to read, therefore realize the informants are not professional genealogist and are still prone to making mistakes.

While your information is provided to you freely, some Lookup Informants are offered payment for time consumed in extensive searches, which is in the way of a genealogy service.

The Informants are here to help you, so please don't take advantage of their time and generosity.  If you request photo copies of the pages, volunteer the cost of copying and postage.

by Ron Gretz

Writing a Successful Posting
by Susan Williams explains how-to and gives examples: 

You’ve been reading the list for a while – enjoying the banter between the listers and you decide it’s time to join in the fun.  So you post a reply – but you receive only one or two replies.  Worse yet – your post is completely ignored!    Here are a few pointers so that doesn’t happen to you.

First, keep in mind that you may be reading each and every post but many subscribers actually read more than one mailing list.  Some only read the posts that might pertain to them or only posts looking for information they are familiar with.  Most readers want to help you –

      You have to help them find you!

Subject line:  This is your attention getter.  Be clear and concise

For example:

Subject:  Smith/Jones fr. Knees circa 1899

Subject:  Lump from Ujpanat/Neupanat c. 1850

A subject line than only says Help! or Can you help me may get passed right over and you will be out of luck. 

An Important Point:   If you are responding to an existing post but are changing the topic – then change the subject line too.  The post will be easier to find and easier to track later in the Archives.

Next – the actual posting:

1.  Start with the most prominent information you already know.

    Ex.  My grandfather, Jacob Schlee, was born circa 1881 in Knees

If the date is approximate – just say so.  Saying someone lived in a town at the end of the century doesn’t give enough clues for people to know where to start looking.

2.  Summarize what information you already know or tell what sites you have already searched. 

This alerts readers – and will stop them from spending valuable time looking up things you already know!

Ex. Wife’s name:  Theresia – maiden name may be Schneider or Stolcz.  Arrived Ellis Island 1911 with 3 children George, Paul & Frank.

Or --  I have read Ellis Island records, social security records but don’t know where else to turn.

      3. Say what you would like to find:

Be specific.  If asking about a person:   Identify when and where they lived – approx. birth date or age when they lived in the known location.  This gives others a place to start.

Remember the more information you give, the more opportunities other reader’s will have to identify with your family or situation.

If possible include other surnames you are searching.

For example:  Searching surnames:  Sander/Lump/Reichert/Schneider/Lais/Steger/Schlee/

4.  And last but not least:

Post a thank you to those who responded to your inquiry.  The readers of this list (and others) want to help – but if they don’t receive any response from you, they may get discouraged. 

After all, they took the time perhaps to research and now don’t even know if you read their e-mail.

Question: 

Should I just Reply to the poster
or
Should I do a “Reply All”

You may reply just to the poster, if you feel the message is personal.  

However, all readers can learn from postings even those that don’t apply directly to them.   Postings can alert readers to surnames, towns, and other information – even new places to look – new places you never even thought of.

In the long run, it makes sense to do a Reply All because this list is meant to be an exchange of ideas between all readers.

Susan Sander

The above suggested (not mandatory) formats and tips are to help you in achieving your research goals and aid you in making connections with distant cousins and other village associates.  We hope this does not discourage you in posting a message you are comfortable with.

Have suggestions or additional tips, please contact us.

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